Legislature(2021 - 2022)BUTROVICH 205

05/16/2022 09:00 AM Senate JUDICIARY

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09:02:17 AM Start
09:03:05 AM HB325
09:26:30 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
Continuation of 5/13/22 meeting
+= HB 325 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 325 Out of Committee
                    HB 325-DOMESTIC VIOLENCE                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:03:05 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND announced  the consideration of HOUSE  BILL NO. 325                                                               
am S (efd  add S) "An Act  relating to petitions for  a change of                                                               
name for certain  persons; relating to the duty to  register as a                                                               
sex offender;  relating to sexual offenses;  relating to domestic                                                               
violence; relating to  the code of military  justice; relating to                                                               
consent; relating  to the testing  of sexual  assault examination                                                               
kits; relating  to lifetime revocation of  a teaching certificate                                                               
for certain  offenses; amending  Rule 84,  Alaska Rules  of Civil                                                               
Procedure; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:03:27 AM                                                                                                                    
CRYSTAL  KOENEMAN, Staff,  Representative Sara  Rasmussen, Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature,  Juneau,   Alaska,  paraphrased  the  sponsor                                                               
statement for HB 325 on behalf of the sponsor.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     HB  325   seeks  to  update  our   antiquated  domestic                                                                    
     violence statutes  by incorporating  image-based sexual                                                                    
     abuse  to the  definition of  domestic violence.  While                                                                    
     sending explicit  images may be grounds  for harassment                                                                    
     in the  second degree, it  is not considered an  act of                                                                    
     domestic   violence   or   crime   involving   domestic                                                                    
     violence.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Images of  individuals, taken with or  without consent,                                                                    
     are being  distributed online as  a tactic of  abuse by                                                                    
     perpetrators  with the  intent to  harass, impersonate,                                                                    
     humiliate,  and cause  harm. Abusers  capture intimate,                                                                    
     nude,  or  sexual images  of  their  partners, with  or                                                                    
     without, their consent. In order  to prevent the victim                                                                    
     from  leaving the  relationship,  the  abuser will  use                                                                    
     that image as a weapon of control.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The  effect of  this abuse  impacts every  part of  the                                                                    
     victim's   life  and   future.  Victims   tend  to   be                                                                    
     revictimized in  their school, workplace,  or community                                                                    
     and  some  have attempted  or  committed  suicide as  a                                                                    
     result.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     While educating people  about the possible consequences                                                                    
     of sharing  explicit images is  important, most  of the                                                                    
     danger and  harm comes from  the subsequent  sharing of                                                                    
     these  images without  consent and  with the  intent to                                                                    
     hurt, shame, or emotionally abuse the victim.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     We must  do better  to end  cycle of  domestic violence                                                                    
     and sexual  abuse. By  tying image-based  sexual abuses                                                                    
     cases  to  our  domestic   violence  laws  will  offers                                                                    
     victims  crucial  benefits  and protections  that  they                                                                    
     might not otherwise get.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
      HB 325 is a small step to help protect Alaskans from                                                                      
     sexual abuse and I urge your support.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:04:51 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS  referred to the definition  of "domestic violence"                                                               
and  asked how  the bill  would  apply to  someone who  is not  a                                                               
household  member, or  after a  divorce,  or if  the parties  had                                                               
never lived together.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:05:36 AM                                                                                                                    
JOHN SKIDMORE,  Deputy Attorney General,  Office of  the Attorney                                                               
General,  Criminal   Division,  Department  of   Law,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska, responded that the definition in AS 18.66.990(5) reads:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     (5) "household member includes                                                                                             
          (A)  adults or  minors who  are current  or former                                                                    
          spouses;                                                                                                              
          (B)  adults or  minors  who live  together or  who                                                                    
          have lived together;                                                                                                  
          (C) adults  or minors who  are dating or  who have                                                                    
          dated;                                                                                                                
          (D) adults  or minors  who are  engaged in  or who                                                                    
          have engaged in a sexual relationship;                                                                                
          (E)  adults  or minors  who  are  related to  each                                                                    
          other up  to the  fourth degree  of consanguinity,                                                                    
          whether  of   the  whole  or  half   blood  or  by                                                                    
          adoption, computed under the rules of civil law;                                                                      
          F) adults  or minors  who are related  or formerly                                                                    
          related by marriage;                                                                                                  
          G) persons  who have a child  of the relationship;                                                                    
          and                                                                                                                   
          (H) minor  children of a person  in a relationship                                                                    
          that is described in (A)  (G) of this paragraph;                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:06:52 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SKIDMORE  answered that  a  former  boyfriend or  girlfriend                                                               
would be considered a household member.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND noted  that a  household member  does  not refer to                                                               
their lodging arrangement.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE agreed that the term was much broader.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:07:11 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES  stated that  sharing  the  photos would  include                                                               
texting or posting them online.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE responded  that the statute refers  to publishing or                                                               
distributing the images, which can occur online or in print.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:07:44 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES wondered whether the  penalty would be more severe                                                               
if  the person  posting  the  photo had  tagged  the person.  She                                                               
recalled having discussed this.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE recalled  the discussion,  but it  did not  concern                                                               
this statute.  He was unsure  whether it resulted in  an enhanced                                                               
penalty for any crime.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:08:36 AM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:09:06 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND reconvened the meeting.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:09:13 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  stated that the penalty  provision doesn't relate                                                               
to this  bill. She said she  doesn't want to slow  the bill down,                                                               
but perhaps it could be addressed  in the future. She recalled an                                                               
article  in the  National  Council of  State Legislatures  (NCSL)                                                               
magazine that lists  Alaska as having a ban on  revenge porn. She                                                               
asked  whether the  state has  other  laws that  NCSL would  have                                                               
considered a ban on revenge porn.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:10:07 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. SKIDMORE replied that he  was unfamiliar with the article. He                                                               
stated  that harassment  is in  state  statute. However,  today's                                                               
bill  does not  consider  whether it  was  illegal but  addresses                                                               
whether it would be considered a crime of domestic violence.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:10:44 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS asked  about  a time  limit  for considering  when                                                               
distributing   explicit  photos   or  sending   posts  would   be                                                               
considered  domestic violence.  He surmised  if someone  had just                                                               
broken up it  would be considered a domestic  violence crime, but                                                               
if someone sends or posts it  online five years later, perhaps it                                                               
would not.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE answered that there  is no timeframe for determining                                                               
whether something  is considered  domestic violence.  Instead, it                                                               
looks at  the nature of  the relationship  and the type  of crime                                                               
that was committed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:11:28 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS asked how sending  explicit images would be handled                                                               
if the perpetrator is under age  18 and sexting someone age 16 or                                                               
if two age 16 kids were sexting, which is common in high school.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE  responded  that  he  was  unsure  it  was  typical                                                               
behavior, but he had heard  stories about sexting. He stated that                                                               
the laws  in Alaska are  different for those prosecuted  in adult                                                               
court that  is open to  the public, or  for youth charged  in the                                                               
Juvenile Justice  System. Those  records tend to  be confidential                                                               
unless the crimes are felony-level  crimes against another person                                                               
and someone was  injured, except for the records  of some felony-                                                               
level crimes. He offered his  view that some records could become                                                               
public later in those circumstances.  In this instance, the crime                                                               
would  not qualify  as public.  He  stated that  the Division  of                                                               
Juvenile  Justice (DJJ)  and the  goals  of that  system and  the                                                               
adult system are  different. For example, DJJ focuses  on what is                                                               
in the  best interests  of the minor  offender. The  adult system                                                               
has  five sentencing  goals:  isolation, community  condemnation,                                                               
rehabilitation, general  deterrence, and specific  deterrence. He                                                               
noted that these  goals are found in the  Alaska Constitution and                                                               
statute.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:13:26 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES asked  whether anything in Alaska  law would allow                                                               
a victim  to receive  damages because she  believes that  some of                                                               
the  impacts could  be quite  severe. She  said she  had read  an                                                               
unidentified article  about how people  would come up  to victims                                                               
in stores, saying they recognized them from photographs.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE  responded that  he was unaware  of anything  in the                                                               
law  that  would prevent  a  victim  from receiving  damages.  He                                                               
highlighted  that  a  victim  could   request  restitution  in  a                                                               
criminal case or bring a tort in a civil suit to seek damages.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:15:09 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   KIEHL   stated    that   domestic   violence   provides                                                               
consequences,   such   as    restraining   orders   or   imposing                                                               
restrictions  on  a perpetrator's  rights.  He  related that  the                                                               
domestic  violence  statutes  relate  to  a  perpetrator  causing                                                               
physical  harm or  unlawfully entering  the premises.  Since this                                                               
crime would  not create  physical harm, it  would be  a departure                                                               
from other domestic violence crimes.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:16:22 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. KOENEMAN responded that harassment  falls within the domestic                                                               
violence statutes, which could consist  of obscene phone calls or                                                               
other crimes  that happen  from a  distance rather  than domestic                                                               
violence  crimes that  create an  immediate  threat. She  related                                                               
that the  Alaska Network  on Domestic  Violence and  other victim                                                               
advocate  groups  indicate that  abuse  comes  in many  different                                                               
forms. While it  may seem like a departure  from violence, image-                                                               
based sexual abuse can be  damaging or traumatic. Victims may not                                                               
wish to leave  their homes because, as  Senator Hughes mentioned,                                                               
they may  be recognized in  public or receive taunts  from others                                                               
who  saw the  photos.  Thus, sending  photos  or publishing  them                                                               
could  result in  violence or  create an  unsafe environment  for                                                               
victims.  She  highlighted   that  perpetrators  could  victimize                                                               
others through  physical violence  or emotional abuse.  She noted                                                               
that  the  explicit  photos  could  affect  their  children.  She                                                               
indicated the intent to identify  this crime as domestic violence                                                               
was  to allow  victims  to  obtain a  restraining  order to  help                                                               
prevent physical violence.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:18:48 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL related  his  understanding  that the  commonality                                                               
between distributing intimate, nude,  or sexually explicit photos                                                               
online and other  domestic violence crimes might  be the elements                                                               
of  isolating the  victim  or using  the  photographs to  control                                                               
them.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:19:31 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. SKIDMORE  related that he  serves on the Council  of Domestic                                                               
Violence and Sexual Assault and  has prosecuted domestic violence                                                               
for the last  25 years. He indicated that domestic  violence is a                                                               
cycle  of control  and manipulation.  It doesn't  relate only  to                                                               
physical violence  but to how  a perpetrator tries to  control or                                                               
manipulate  another  person. He  described  the  cycle of  abuse,                                                               
which includes the  building of tension, the  abuse incident, the                                                               
reconciliation, and  a period  of calm.  He indicated  that there                                                               
isn't any  timeframe. Sometimes an  abuser will be so  focused on                                                               
their victim that  it continues to cycle up.  He characterized it                                                               
as an  attempt by the offender  to continue to hurt  and harm the                                                               
victim because the victim won't be  with them anymore. He said it                                                               
was about  wanting to say,  "You are mine  and only mine,  and if                                                               
you're not with  me, I will exercise the greatest  amount of pain                                                               
I can  on you." He  emphasized that it  may not be  physical pain                                                               
but psychological and  emotional, which plays a  role in domestic                                                               
violence.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:21:07 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  HOLLAND  stated  that  this   crime  has  emerged  due  to                                                               
technology.  One  crime  listed  for  harassment  in  the  second                                                               
degree, AS  11.61.120(a)(3), was that the  perpetrator was making                                                               
repeated telephone calls  at odd hours. He offered  his view that                                                               
it was  appropriate to address explicit  photos being distributed                                                               
or posted online at this time.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:21:51 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES  commented  that  typically  people  think  about                                                               
domestic violence as  a crime that results in  bruises and broken                                                               
bones,  but that  psychological  and emotional  abuse could  make                                                               
someone  physically  ill. She  noted  that  this relates  to  the                                                               
publication and distribution of  explicit photos. She stated that                                                               
in  some  instances, the  victim  consented  to the  photos,  not                                                               
realizing they would be distributed  later. She asked whether the                                                               
penalty  increases  if  the  distributed  or  published  explicit                                                               
photos were taken without consent.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE responded that other  crimes would be applicable and                                                               
would have increased penalties.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:23:18 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND opened  public testimony on HB 325;  he found none,                                                               
and closed public testimony on HB 325.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:23:58 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. KOENEMAN  thanked the committee  on behalf of the  victims of                                                               
domestic  violence.  She  remarked  that  the  physical  toll  on                                                               
victims of abuse could be rough.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:24:38 AM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:25:18 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND reconvened the meeting.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:25:26 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  moved to report  HB 325, work  order 32-LS1526\A,                                                               
from  committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  attached                                                               
fiscal note(s).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND  found no objection,  and HB 325 was  reported from                                                               
the Senate Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:26:30 AM                                                                                                                    
There being no further business to come before the committee,                                                                   
Chair Holland adjourned the Senate Judiciary Standing Committee                                                                 
meeting at 9:26 a.m.                                                                                                            

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